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		<title>Comment on Maybe Bartlett&#8217;s Strike 3 by jabartlett</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/maybe-bartletts-strike-3/#comment-39408</link>
		<dc:creator>jabartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I'm mentioned by name in the title, I feel like I should respond to this. And it'll give me a break from the Favre mania up here.

I agree with Lefty's concerns about definition. Whether or not Obama's announcement makes sense as a practical matter (arguable either way, I suppose), this is the wrong time to be making it. This is the action of a campaign that either doesn't recognize how the media playing field is tilted, or doesn't think it matters---a deadly error either way. It's the same species of error that led the Kerry campaign to misunderestimate the Swiftboaters, and the great-grandson of the error Dukakis made when he rode in the tank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m mentioned by name in the title, I feel like I should respond to this. And it&#8217;ll give me a break from the Favre mania up here.</p>
<p>I agree with Lefty&#8217;s concerns about definition. Whether or not Obama&#8217;s announcement makes sense as a practical matter (arguable either way, I suppose), this is the wrong time to be making it. This is the action of a campaign that either doesn&#8217;t recognize how the media playing field is tilted, or doesn&#8217;t think it matters&#8212;a deadly error either way. It&#8217;s the same species of error that led the Kerry campaign to misunderestimate the Swiftboaters, and the great-grandson of the error Dukakis made when he rode in the tank.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maybe Bartlett&#8217;s Strike 3 by bdr</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/maybe-bartletts-strike-3/#comment-39403</link>
		<dc:creator>bdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obamapostasy's a pita. Someone should write about it.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Maybe Bartlett&#8217;s Strike 3 by Leftcoast</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/maybe-bartletts-strike-3/#comment-39400</link>
		<dc:creator>Leftcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point is simple Josh.  I do not wish Obama to be defeated.  I've said two things repeatedly: 1)  It is critical to have a Dem in the White House in 08, any Dem.   Obama's the guy, I'm down with it.  2)  Dems have proved to be  gutless losers--as far as I'm concerned, we had a choice of two fatally flawed candidates in Hillary and Obama, we're running with one of them hoping like hell he wins.  From what I can tell, the Dems are making massive and perhaps irrevocable strat mistakes.  Obama's run to the middle is not an ideological problem, it's inadvertently signaling weakness at a time when McCain and the Pugs are aggressively framing him.  There's certainly a strategy behind this run to the middle, but it doesn't read like were setting ourselves up for becoming the "we" nation, it reads like weakness--aided and abetted by a corrupt MSM that is smitten with McCain.  The timing sucks.

That Obama is being repositioned by the Pugs as Dukakis is not my original thought--commentators on MSNBC, NPR, and writers on many major news outlets have said as much  (I'll dig up the links if you like) and they've equated him with Jimmy Carter.  Not my perception, the perception of others. 

i'm remiss if I don't write about what I see, which is a troubling replay of the same campaign tactics emerging once again.  Dems step into the same trap every time and they're doing it again.  You have your opinions and have strongly supported them as always.  That's great.  i have mine.  That's fine.  We don't have to agree to coexist at BoB.  Or maybe that's the new paradigm here...please advise.

What I will not tolerate and neither should you, are vapid nasty posts calling one another "haters."  That's troll shit and beneath the level of this site.  Or maybe that's part of the new deal here.  You tell me.  I have made my difference opinion known, but never knowlngly or specifically called anyone a name or characterized them one way or the other personally.  We've talked about it privately many times, it's time to air it publicly because it debases the level of dialog and the attraction of this site to our readers.  What's it going to be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point is simple Josh.  I do not wish Obama to be defeated.  I&#8217;ve said two things repeatedly: 1)  It is critical to have a Dem in the White House in 08, any Dem.   Obama&#8217;s the guy, I&#8217;m down with it.  2)  Dems have proved to be  gutless losers&#8211;as far as I&#8217;m concerned, we had a choice of two fatally flawed candidates in Hillary and Obama, we&#8217;re running with one of them hoping like hell he wins.  From what I can tell, the Dems are making massive and perhaps irrevocable strat mistakes.  Obama&#8217;s run to the middle is not an ideological problem, it&#8217;s inadvertently signaling weakness at a time when McCain and the Pugs are aggressively framing him.  There&#8217;s certainly a strategy behind this run to the middle, but it doesn&#8217;t read like were setting ourselves up for becoming the &#8220;we&#8221; nation, it reads like weakness&#8211;aided and abetted by a corrupt MSM that is smitten with McCain.  The timing sucks.</p>
<p>That Obama is being repositioned by the Pugs as Dukakis is not my original thought&#8211;commentators on MSNBC, NPR, and writers on many major news outlets have said as much  (I&#8217;ll dig up the links if you like) and they&#8217;ve equated him with Jimmy Carter.  Not my perception, the perception of others. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m remiss if I don&#8217;t write about what I see, which is a troubling replay of the same campaign tactics emerging once again.  Dems step into the same trap every time and they&#8217;re doing it again.  You have your opinions and have strongly supported them as always.  That&#8217;s great.  i have mine.  That&#8217;s fine.  We don&#8217;t have to agree to coexist at BoB.  Or maybe that&#8217;s the new paradigm here&#8230;please advise.</p>
<p>What I will not tolerate and neither should you, are vapid nasty posts calling one another &#8220;haters.&#8221;  That&#8217;s troll shit and beneath the level of this site.  Or maybe that&#8217;s part of the new deal here.  You tell me.  I have made my difference opinion known, but never knowlngly or specifically called anyone a name or characterized them one way or the other personally.  We&#8217;ve talked about it privately many times, it&#8217;s time to air it publicly because it debases the level of dialog and the attraction of this site to our readers.  What&#8217;s it going to be?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maybe Bartlett&#8217;s Strike 3 by Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/maybe-bartletts-strike-3/#comment-39397</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lefty, we did kick the crap out of Kerry, but none of us predicted he would lose, we were all hopeful amid the criticism. You are now on record as seeing a McCain win by 5 percent, something no one has achieved since Papa Bush, a long time ago. That is all Sasha is saying.

And you have a "defeat wish" on Obama that is clear: you see him as the next Dukakis. Keep in mind, that Obama has done nothing of what you claim, all he has said is that he is open to listening to the commanders on the ground, something Bush says, but doesn't do. Why not give him a chance to make a "fool" out of himself. Let him have his trip, talk with soldiers, Iraq government officials, others in the region, and US Commanders. The let's see if he is going to sell out the country as you predict.

He is not reassessing, he is simply saying he will be listening. Gee, a president who listens?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lefty, we did kick the crap out of Kerry, but none of us predicted he would lose, we were all hopeful amid the criticism. You are now on record as seeing a McCain win by 5 percent, something no one has achieved since Papa Bush, a long time ago. That is all Sasha is saying.</p>
<p>And you have a &#8220;defeat wish&#8221; on Obama that is clear: you see him as the next Dukakis. Keep in mind, that Obama has done nothing of what you claim, all he has said is that he is open to listening to the commanders on the ground, something Bush says, but doesn&#8217;t do. Why not give him a chance to make a &#8220;fool&#8221; out of himself. Let him have his trip, talk with soldiers, Iraq government officials, others in the region, and US Commanders. The let&#8217;s see if he is going to sell out the country as you predict.</p>
<p>He is not reassessing, he is simply saying he will be listening. Gee, a president who listens?!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maybe Bartlett&#8217;s Strike 3 by Leftcoast</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/maybe-bartletts-strike-3/#comment-39392</link>
		<dc:creator>Leftcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Sasha. Clearly you don't understand what this site is and how it functions.  Maybe I don't any more, because for the 5+ years I've posted here, only trolls wrote vapid, personal comments like this.  This never happened,  even when the writers, and there have been several strong writers here with strong opinions, went to the mat over the issues.  We simultaneously praised and kicked the crap out of Howard Dean.  We ripped the shit out of John Kerry along with stripping the bark off the DNC/DLC.  This was never a cheerleading site with bloggers slinging shit like this at each other from the cheap seats.

If past is prologue, Obama is in trouble, big trouble.  He's being defined, right now. And he and his staff are falling into the reasonableness trap set by the same people that took down Gore and Kerry and caused the Dems to lose to the most blatantly inept, least articulate and dangerous president this nation has ever seen.  Twice.  If pointing that out is your definition of hatred, so be it.  

Josh:  Source verified by the NY Times...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/obama-open-to-refine-iraq-withdrawal-timeline/index.html?hp

The point is that if Dems want to win, they can't waffle, even if reassessing Iraq is a reasonable tactic to take once you're president.  There was no reason for this to be said now--it only feeds the beast at the wrong time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Sasha. Clearly you don&#8217;t understand what this site is and how it functions.  Maybe I don&#8217;t any more, because for the 5+ years I&#8217;ve posted here, only trolls wrote vapid, personal comments like this.  This never happened,  even when the writers, and there have been several strong writers here with strong opinions, went to the mat over the issues.  We simultaneously praised and kicked the crap out of Howard Dean.  We ripped the shit out of John Kerry along with stripping the bark off the DNC/DLC.  This was never a cheerleading site with bloggers slinging shit like this at each other from the cheap seats.</p>
<p>If past is prologue, Obama is in trouble, big trouble.  He&#8217;s being defined, right now. And he and his staff are falling into the reasonableness trap set by the same people that took down Gore and Kerry and caused the Dems to lose to the most blatantly inept, least articulate and dangerous president this nation has ever seen.  Twice.  If pointing that out is your definition of hatred, so be it.  </p>
<p>Josh:  Source verified by the NY Times&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/obama-open-to-refine-iraq-withdrawal-timeline/index.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/obama-open-to-refine-iraq-withdrawal-timeline/index.html?hp</a></p>
<p>The point is that if Dems want to win, they can&#8217;t waffle, even if reassessing Iraq is a reasonable tactic to take once you&#8217;re president.  There was no reason for this to be said now&#8211;it only feeds the beast at the wrong time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;ve Decided To Make An Independent Run For President by cajbar</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/ive-decided-to-run-make-an-independent-run-for-president/#comment-39389</link>
		<dc:creator>cajbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, I'm Back.

Finally, someone with half a brain running for office.  Seems redundant?
Vote Early, Vote Often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, I&#8217;m Back.</p>
<p>Finally, someone with half a brain running for office.  Seems redundant?<br />
Vote Early, Vote Often.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maybe Bartlett&#8217;s Strike 3 by Sasha</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/maybe-bartletts-strike-3/#comment-39387</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My you just hate everybody, don't you?  Who do you think should run the show?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Maybe Bartlett&#8217;s Strike 3 by Josh Hammond</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/maybe-bartletts-strike-3/#comment-39386</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you don't go to the link, Lefty's source for this conclusion is Alex Conant, a hack for the RNC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you don&#8217;t go to the link, Lefty&#8217;s source for this conclusion is Alex Conant, a hack for the RNC.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;ve Decided To Make An Independent Run For President by timr</title>
		<link>http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2008/07/03/ive-decided-to-run-make-an-independent-run-for-president/#comment-39385</link>
		<dc:creator>timr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, was the "news story" a birthday present? Really shows some imagineation on somebodys part.
 WOW-less than 3 " of rain here in SA since last sep-should have at least 16" of rain by now just since jan 08. BUT, since the first of July we have been getting some rain every day. .5" on the 1st, 2" on the second, and it has been raining hard since about 2pm(radar-from my computer) shows a couple of more waves of storms inbound. Funny that the long range prediction by the NWS-made in 2007 said that so texas would start getting rain once more starting in July. Just had one hell of a power surge, took out 7 house CB's, and 3 of the 5 surge protectors that I have my computer hooked up with. That does it. Since I am still hooked up to the grid, and even more when I go off line, I am getting a whole house surge protector. A friend-who lives in Canada-got one after his incoming power line was hit by lightning, took out $12,000 of stuff, from TV to frig, to freezer, to stove, to furnace, to his circuit box panel-partly fused-to some of his wiring. Another friend-in No Mi had lightning actually strike an iron pipe on the outside of his house, it traveled down the pipe into his basement-where his son was sitting on the edge of an old army cot(steel frame)-which was touching the steel bed frame(the pipe and the frame got welded together) and then went to ground thru his son, who got thrown across the room into the wall-about 2-4 feet-put his son in the hosp with some broken bones and burns on the back of his legs and the bottoms of his feet(he was barefoot on slightly damp concrete floor). Moral, ground everything!! And during an electrical storm-you know, lightning, do not talk on a corded phone. People have been killed while talking on the phone.  Every outlet in my house is protected by a surge protector, my plasma and LCD TV's have 2 surge protectors each. What you all might not be aware of-but you will find in the very small print-is that most surge protectors, unless they state otherwise(and are quite expensive) are only good for 1 surge. After that you might as well not have any thing there at all. And yes, I do have a couple of lightning rods mounted on my roof(which is metal) with very thick copper wire buried almost 4 feet-into solid stone. Electricity can kill you if you don't treat it with respect. I got zapped while I was in my advanced electronics school, when I reached under a radar scope that had the cover removed to adjust it so I could see it without bending over. Got all my fingers on the coils transformer. Knocked me to the floor,lucky an instructor saw what happened and pulled the main CB, removing one from the source-without touching the person yourself-is the only way that you can help. Over the last 30 years I have seen 3 people get electrocuted, along with one idiot that I almost killed who thought it would be funny to turn the power back on while I had my hands and steel tools inside a piece of electronic gear. Fused my screwdriver across 2 power leads, and I beat the crap out of the joker who did it. I'll get off my soapbox now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, was the &#8220;news story&#8221; a birthday present? Really shows some imagineation on somebodys part.<br />
 WOW-less than 3 &#8221; of rain here in SA since last sep-should have at least 16&#8243; of rain by now just since jan 08. BUT, since the first of July we have been getting some rain every day. .5&#8243; on the 1st, 2&#8243; on the second, and it has been raining hard since about 2pm(radar-from my computer) shows a couple of more waves of storms inbound. Funny that the long range prediction by the NWS-made in 2007 said that so texas would start getting rain once more starting in July. Just had one hell of a power surge, took out 7 house CB&#8217;s, and 3 of the 5 surge protectors that I have my computer hooked up with. That does it. Since I am still hooked up to the grid, and even more when I go off line, I am getting a whole house surge protector. A friend-who lives in Canada-got one after his incoming power line was hit by lightning, took out $12,000 of stuff, from TV to frig, to freezer, to stove, to furnace, to his circuit box panel-partly fused-to some of his wiring. Another friend-in No Mi had lightning actually strike an iron pipe on the outside of his house, it traveled down the pipe into his basement-where his son was sitting on the edge of an old army cot(steel frame)-which was touching the steel bed frame(the pipe and the frame got welded together) and then went to ground thru his son, who got thrown across the room into the wall-about 2-4 feet-put his son in the hosp with some broken bones and burns on the back of his legs and the bottoms of his feet(he was barefoot on slightly damp concrete floor). Moral, ground everything!! And during an electrical storm-you know, lightning, do not talk on a corded phone. People have been killed while talking on the phone.  Every outlet in my house is protected by a surge protector, my plasma and LCD TV&#8217;s have 2 surge protectors each. What you all might not be aware of-but you will find in the very small print-is that most surge protectors, unless they state otherwise(and are quite expensive) are only good for 1 surge. After that you might as well not have any thing there at all. And yes, I do have a couple of lightning rods mounted on my roof(which is metal) with very thick copper wire buried almost 4 feet-into solid stone. Electricity can kill you if you don&#8217;t treat it with respect. I got zapped while I was in my advanced electronics school, when I reached under a radar scope that had the cover removed to adjust it so I could see it without bending over. Got all my fingers on the coils transformer. Knocked me to the floor,lucky an instructor saw what happened and pulled the main CB, removing one from the source-without touching the person yourself-is the only way that you can help. Over the last 30 years I have seen 3 people get electrocuted, along with one idiot that I almost killed who thought it would be funny to turn the power back on while I had my hands and steel tools inside a piece of electronic gear. Fused my screwdriver across 2 power leads, and I beat the crap out of the joker who did it. I&#8217;ll get off my soapbox now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;ve Decided To Make An Independent Run For President by Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll vote 5 times!</description>
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